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supersarcboy
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Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 00:22 |
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I have been reading the material about what foods to avoid on the MP. From what I understand, I am trying to avoid all foods with Vitamin D, Folic Acid, tartrazine, white flour, white bread, baked goods, Pork, eggs, Milk etc. The problem is I'm having a hard time finding some acceptable food choices. I went shopping today and bought some organic chicken and pastrami and was feeling really lost as to what to buy? Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone make any suggestions about some common foods they use while on the MP?
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Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 00:40 |
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Hi Mom
For some information see the food topics in Side Topic Discussion Related to the Marshall Protocol
and ESSENTIAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MP (Required Reading)
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Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 07:31 |
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| What is tartrazine???
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Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 08:51 |
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Mary,
here is google tartrazine ...
tartrazine
Yellow food colouring produced synthetically from petroleum. Many people are allergic to foods containing it. Typical effects are skin disorders and respiratory problems. It has been shown to have an adverse effect on hyperactive children.
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scooker48
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Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 14:47 |
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Dear Confused Mom,
Lean cuts of meat are okay. Pork tenderloins, where one cuts off every visible scrap of fat on the outside have worked fine for me. I cut them into slices, and fry them for 4 minutes on each side in olive oil. Salt & pepper to taste.
I also like ground turkey breast. I shape it into hamburger size patties and again fry it, but baking might work too. I add onions and sometimes soy sauce. I believe soy sauce is okay, because its fermented. But someone else might double check this fact.
For a dessert, which is so important for kids, I use frozen fruit. Currently, I am using frozen cherries. I take them out of the package, and drip a small amount of water over them. They are great and I feel as satisfied as eating frozen yogurt, which I don't eat because of the whey.
The fruit this time of year is good, too. Sherry
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Posted: Sat May 21st, 2005 02:29 |
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Please see:
FOODS TO AVOID and FOODS SAFE TO EAT
Best,
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supersarcboy
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Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2005 22:51 |
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Sherry, Thank you so much for responding. I thought pork was a no no. Is it OK then to give bacon, pork sausages, and ham.
Thanks again,
Michael's mom
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Meg Mangin R.N.
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Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2005 01:37 |
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Beause Vitamin D is stored in the body fat of mammals, eating fatty meat exposes you to some Vitamin D. The amount is impossible to determine because of variabilities in animal feed and possible feed supplementation with Vitamin D. Grassfed animals and wild game are the safest meat to eat but they can be pricey.
Trim the visible fat and avoid meat that is high in fat such as bacon. But use moderation and common sense as your guide to other meats such as lean pork and ham. It is important to reduce ingested Vitamin D and you do need to be cautious but you don't need to become a fanatic.
For more info, please see the helpful hints in this forum:
THE IMPORTANCE OF AVOIDING INGESTED VITAMIN D
Best,
Meg
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supersarcboy
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Posted: Wed May 25th, 2005 14:00 |
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Meg
Thank you so much for your help. Trevor wrote "Stay away from supplements, including white flour, white bread and baked goods, until you conquer disease. Avoid folic acid. Is enriched flour ok? or wheat flour ingredients ok? Also Michael eats alot of terriaki sauce. Is that ok? I was going to make him bisquick pancakes. Alot of ingredients include folic acid, am I trying to avoid them completely? What about Italian dressing - I know sunflower oil is a no no, but is soybean oil ok? I thought I read that soy sauce was not a good choice either. Sorry so many questions. I feeling so unsure of myself reading all these labels. I know the vitamin D is important to avoid, should we be as strict with all the others? I'm having such a hard time finding acceptable foods.
Michael's Confused Mom
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BARNEY
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Posted: Wed May 25th, 2005 22:01 |
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MICHAEL'S MOM,
YOU WILL NEED TO TRY AND MAKE THINGS FROM SCRATCH FOR MICHAEL IF YOU CAN'T FIND READI-MADE PRODUCTS.
ENRICHED FLOUR IS A NO NO. IF YOU MUST MAKE PANCAKES AND SUCH, PLEASE FIND A FLOUR SUCH AS HODSON MILL'S FLOUR. IT HAS NOTHING ADDED. IF YOU HAVE A WALMART NEARBY, THEY SELL IT. THE WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR WITH NO ADDITIVIES IS ALSO FOUND AT WALMART AND IS CALLED HUNGARIAN.
IF IT SAYS, FOLATE OR FOLIC ACID OR THE VIT A CONTENT IS ABOVE 6%, DO NOT USE IT. SARA LEE BREADS HAVE AS HIGH AS 20% FOLIC ACID, SOME OTHER BRANDS ONLY HAVE 2% OR 6%. BREADMAKERS ARE SO CHEAP NOWADAYS, IF I AM GOING TO HAVE BREAD, I MAKE IT WITH THE FLOURS MENTIONED ABOVE. WATCH OUT FOR POWDERED MILK IN COOKING, IT IS FULL OF VIT D.
READ YOUR LABELS GOOD, I DO USE SOME SOYBEAN OIL SALAD DRESSING, BUT NOT MUCH. DR. M WOULD PREFER YOU USE OLIVE OIL AND VINEGAR ON YOUR SALAD FROM WHAT I HAVE READ.
HOPE THIS HELPS AND HOPE MICHAEL IS DOING BETTER.
BARNEY
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Posted: Thu May 26th, 2005 01:54 |
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This powdered milk from AmericanSpice.com is clearly labelled that it does not have added Vit D. There will be some Vit D due to the cows' grazing, but one hopes that the supplier, "Amish Meadow Farms," prefers free-range to vitamin-enriched feed lots 
http://tinyurl.com/d35gv
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ps: I use this milk in my hot chocolate mix: 1 part of Droste (imported from Holland) Cocoa, one and a half parts of this powdered milk, and two parts of Splenda. Spoon a really heaped tablepsoon of the mix into hot water. I guarantee Michael will drink it
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Meg Mangin R.N.
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Posted: Thu May 26th, 2005 02:22 |
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The addition of Vitamin A to dairy products hints that Vitamin D has also been added (and not listed) if the level of Vitamin A is higher than 6%.
Vitamin A may be added to products other than dairy. This does not make them contraindicated unless the ingredients also list Vitamin D or folic acid.
Click on these links for specific information about:
THE IMPORTANCE OF AVOIDING INGESTED VITAMIN D
FOODS TO AVOID and FOODS SAFE TO EAT
Best,
MegLast edited on Tue Jun 7th, 2005 01:54 by Meg Mangin R.N.
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Posted: Thu May 26th, 2005 02:37 |
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Whole Foods Market sells milk in a bottle, and the 1% variety is fortified only with Vit A, not Vit D. Check the label carefully (other percentages have D in them).
"Alvarado St Bakery" breads do not use fortified flour. Albertsons and Whole Foods have these breads.
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supersarcboy
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Posted: Thu May 26th, 2005 16:37 |
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Oh my gosh Barney, Dr. Marshall, Meg, everyone. Thank you so much I wasn't even thinking about making things from scratch. Can't wait to get to wal-mart to get the flour. I also tried the Ezekiel bread and he liked it. I'm going to make a list and get to the store. Any other helpful ideas are always welcome. Hope you're all doing well.
Thanks again, Michael's mom
Last edited on Thu May 26th, 2005 16:41 by supersarcboy
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supersarcboy
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Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2005 15:44 |
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Went to Whole Foods and have been reading labels like crazy. Have a few questions---
I know sunflower oil should be avoided but what about Safflower oil or is it the same?
Found cheese with vitamin A less than 6% but indicates it is made with milk, or organic cultured milk, or organic nonfat milk, or made with pasteurized cultured part skim milk?? Are any of these acceptable?
Can I bake for Michael using Organic Wheat flour??
What about grain oat flour, soymilk powder?
Also found "silk cultured soy" yogart which is Dairy free and Lactose free is this a good choice?
Sorry so many questions.
Anyone who can help would be greatly appreciated.
Michael's mom
Last edited on Thu Jun 2nd, 2005 15:46 by supersarcboy
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2005 16:01 |
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The cheese is fine.
You might need to add Sodium Bicarbonate so that the unenriched Organic flour will bake properly, but I am sure you know that
Yoghurt which doesn't have added Vit D is fine, even normal milk yoghurt, in moderation. I personally prefer it to the soy product, which is often "enriched" anyway. there is a "low-carb" brand of yoghurt which has very little sugar in it.
Michael needs some milk products to give him calcium, which a body needs (and not just for bone). Did you look at the 1% milk in the bottles at Whole Foods? It is organic, and the 1% version often only has Vit A added (no D). I also saw a new brand of milk with a Nonfat which had only Vit A in the bottles last time I was at our local WF market.
You don't want Michael drinking glasses of milk, but using it in cooking and to add taste to breakfast oatmeal (or preferably flax-meal) is a good idea.
...Trevor..Last edited on Thu Jun 2nd, 2005 16:08 by Dr Trevor Marshall
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BARNEY
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Posted: Sun Jun 5th, 2005 02:58 |
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MICHAEL'S MOM,
I FOUND A WEBSITE YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOME BAKING FOR MICHAEL. IT IS ALMOST ALL ITEMS THAT ARE NOT 'ENRICHED' (YOU KNOW - NO VIT D, NO FOLIC ACID AND ALL THAT STUFF).
IT IS: http://WWW.HODGSONMILL.COM . HOPE YOU ENJOY IT. LOTS AND LOTS OF RECIPES BUT AVOID THE FLAX SEED IDEAS. IT EVEN HAS RECIPES FOR YOUR PETS.
BARNEY
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Posted: Thu Jun 9th, 2005 19:06 |
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Just a quick question about the non D milk.
I found bottled milk at Whole Foods from "Farmers All Natural Creamery" It's 1%. It doesn't sound like they have fortified or modified it in any way. However in the ingredients vitamin D is listed with an asterisk. Then down below it says,
..contains less than 2% daily value of vit D.
Does this mean it has been fortified, or does any milk contain a small amount of D due to the grain the cows were fed etc?
Is it ok for me to drink this product?
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Posted: Fri Jun 10th, 2005 18:02 |
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Amy
Dr Marshall's post above has the answer..
You don't want to be drinking glasses of milk, but using it in cooking and to add taste to breakfast oatmeal is a good idea.
...Trevor..
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cru0124
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Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2005 17:29 |
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| Hi, I am new to this so here I go. Apprecate the food recommedations in the MP and from talking to lyme suffers. Questions of mom and Ames and responses have been helpful. Not sure I understand why we need to stay away from Soy products-- is tofu a problem and naturally occuring folic acid is in most fruits and vegtables. Why is folic acid such a bad thing when addressing the lyme etc? Again thanks for any help or thoughts you can provide.
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